Thursday, February 9, 2012

Nearing 4 weeks in Copenhagen

The weather has turned quite cold, here (down to -8 and -10C during the day). Homeless people dying in Poland and Ukraine, and Heathrow canceled a ton of flights last Sunday. It snowed Sunday and Monday. Here's the view out my office window (from Monday):


From Copenhagen 2012(picasa)


I did go do something touristy last Sunday, but it was a bit hampered by the cold. Turns out, -8C and windy is not good weather to go explore something that's sort of mainly outdoors/something to look at. Christiania. Interesting place. The ''Green Light District'' was some incredibly blatant/straightforward, calm...well. Selling of wares that would be illegal other places besides Amsterdam. No picture-taking allowed, so I can only tell you that it was interesting, and that the internet has sufficiently many pictures to entertain. This was next to where I entered.

So, rather than continue on about touristy things, I'll tell you about odds and ends of living abroad/in Copenhagen.

  1. Immigration:  On the surface, it seems like Denmark is better to its immigrants than Germany. There are free Danish classes for foreigners, e.g.  Everyone speaks English, which makes it easy/not stressful at all to order food or buy groceries or anything like that.  What I was told is that Denmark likes its foreign visitors, who are guaranteed to leave after a limited time. To actually immigrate, however, there's some weird points system for becoming a citizen. Lots of points for going to an Ivy League school or a Scandinavian school, etc. They also don't like allowing in spouses of Danish citizens when the spouse is less than 28. Supposedly to block arranged marriages (is this an oblique reference to Islam? I don't know). My impression is that Germany likes to pretend that it has no foreigners. 

  2. Currency: All kroner (Danish, Swedish and Norwegian) are seriously devalued. 5 Danish kroner per USD, but it costs 50 Danish kroner (crowns) for a half liter of beer, 100 dkk (Danish crowns) for a winter hat, 300-1500 dkk for shoes, etc. That is, the buying power is not reflected by the ratio to USD or euro. As a result, the lower level coins have been disappearing. There are no coins for anything less than half a crown. I saw a sign by a train station advertising the halting of use of the .25 dkk coins (or, that's the gist I got; it was in Danish).

    The result?  Rounding. Their stores have the same deceptive prices as in the states (albeit, they all include tax). E.g. Yogurt for 13,95 dkk.  So, what happens if your bill totals to something like xxx.65 dkk?  Or xxxx.14 dkk? Rounding, up and down, to the nearest coin in use. It makes sense. And would also never fly in Germany. Makes me think of how nice it would be to not have pennies. :)

  3. From Copenhagen 2012(picasa)

  4. Bikes: It is pretty exhilarating to be in a town with bike traffic. Bike traffic lights, bike lanes, and cyclists that signal turns and stops (which they have to, otherwise there would be accidents, an no one wears a helmet). It's definitely more fun than normal traffic, and I haven't seen any traffic jams.

  5. Bread: So far, not impressed by Danish bread. Much more pricey than what I expect of European bread (compared to Germany and France), and overall underwhelming. However, interesting side-note:  The import of the merchant Sephardic Jews to Denmark in the 1600s brought with them their baking habits, including covering their breads with poppy seeds. The hebrew word for these yielded the word in Danish, which is now commonly used to refer to (any) roll -- birkes.

  6. Canada Goose coats: This is sort of random, but it seems like the next big thing in coats (at least here) is the brand Canada Goose. These suckers run about $600 USD (in the states) in my experience, and are Arctic-expedition levels of warm. I've seen at least 50 people here wearing them. I tend to see 5-10 people in them every time I walk around for any extended period of time. Not sure why, as we're not living in particularly arctic conditions. Maybe it's a status symbol. 

  7. Recycling?: So, Germany recycles some crazy amount of their waste, 85% or such. Here? I have seen the occasional glass-recycling bin, and plastic bottle collectors at the grocery store, but overall, I'm told they don't recycle here, they incinerate, and use it to heat the place.

  8. Heating: On the topic of heating -- all the buildings (so says the apartment rental guy) plug into the same central boiler system. I imagine there's some redundancy to protect against things going wrong, and to keep anyone trying to fix it from suffering 600C steam burns, but I find that pretty interesting.

  9. Danish: About as crazy as English, with a worse number system. :) Here's some Danish that helps you get by:  
    • Biograff = movie theater (don't ask me, I didn't do it) :) 
    • Smørebrod = ''traditional Danish food''. Don't bother. Go find yourself some of the super-dense schwarzbrot in the store, cover it with mayoand a piece of breaded fish, voila. ;) 
    • Tak = thanks
    • Unskyld = Excuse me 
    • Bøf = steak, oksekød = beef 
    • Kylling = chicken 
    • Skinke = ham, Swinekød = pork 
    • kød = meat (said ~ ''cool'')
    • dag = day (Said the same way, roughly).  Tirsdag, Ondag, Torsdag, Fredag, Lørdag, Sondag. Only weird one is the name for Saturday. It's comes from a word for washing/doing laundry. So, Saturday = laundry day. 
The worst part is that they have the same greetings as English. So, if someone says Hi/Hello/Hey, it does not mean that they will assume the conversation will continue in English instead of Danish. At least with German, I can hear the difference between ''Hallo'' and "Hello".

I was asked pretty recently if I miss anything from the states. Outside of the obvious (friends, affordable alcohol), yeah. Since I'm on a roll with lists, here's another:


  1. Netflix. Man. I miss being able to just put something on, of my choice. Don't get me wrong, I've been pretty impressed so far with the frequency of decent movies on the Danish television, although it's hard to figure out what'll be playing as they translate most of the titles into Danish. E.g. tonight, they're showing ''Slothed og Fordom'', an ''Amerikanisk romantisk drama fra 2005''. Stumped? Here's a hint: it stars Keira Knightly and was written by Jane Austen. Also, there's the daily showing of ''Venner''(friends) and ''Greys hvide verden''(Greys Anatomy).

  2. Cheap, good coffee. Even in Berlin, I could get an espresso for a euro. Here, I'm lucky to pay 4 USD. 20dkk (and that's a deal!).

  3. Customer Service. Man. Something happened, my internet's out. There's no company for me to harass, so I have to wait for the apartment rental agency to harass them. However, they both keep limited hours (9-4pm, at best), which is shocking. that is, there is no one for me to call at 6pm or on the weekend to say ''Hey, my internet's out. Please fix it''. 

  4. Craigslist. Not for now, but the future. It just doesn't exist over here. Why? What do people do with their old stuff? Burn it for fuel? 

I also kind of miss Americans. I find Scandinavians (and Germans) pretty reserved. I was talking to a guy about this, and he said the Netherlands are worse, that you wouldn't talk to someone unless you knew them since elementary school. Bleah.

On the practical front, I think I have a place to live for March, and theoretically, April onwards (well, I put down a deposit, so I ought to). I am resigned for now to pay out my teeth, especially as there is no Craigslist with which to cheaply furnish a place, so I would have to factor in the cost of furniture when thinking about renting, on top of the actual cost of rent/utilities (and probably also courtage/provisions/i.e. commission fees for the realtors).

The ''lakes'' (glorified moats/puddles or maybe dammed up canals) have frozen over. I walked by about sunset the other day (before the complete freeze) and took some pictures:

From Copenhagen 2012(picasa)


They have swans:


From Copenhagen 2012(picasa)







8 comments:

  1. wow. I'm looking at your photos (gorgeous!), and I know you're in a city, but I have an odd impression that when it's cold and snowy like that there's utter silence. What's the atmosphere (sounds, smells, feeling) of the place in the cold?

    Enjoyed reading about life in Denmark, and the reports about its quirks.

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    1. I suppose I try not to go out too much when it's that cold. Overall, I think things here are quiet, outside of the normal busy periods of morning/evening commute and lunch. It was certainly quietish on my walk along the puddles (''lakes'' :) )About 40% of Danes commute by bike, I'm told, but I think it's more than that. As a result, I think there's a lot less ambient car noise, for sure. When I think of being outside here in the snow, I think of bikes and of other people walking.

      Glad you're enjoying it. You should try to make it to Copenhagen; it's a pretty magical place. I feel like I'm seeing a side of it most tourists don't get, coming in the cold (and therefore the ''off'' season). I see and interact with the people who actually live here, or who live close enough to make short trips.

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  2. This is very fascinating, Rosona. Do they have ebay or tag/yard sales? Maybe not in cold weather? Estate, tag, garage, and yard sales along with flea markets and such started up when I was in college, and then the pickings were slim. Probably originated by boomers. Downsizing is a pretty recent phenomenom in the US. That concept didn't exist here during the expansion of the 1950s & 60s when the WWII generation was raising families. The demand for everything was huge, and that included houses. My mother said about the old house in Illinois, "Three generations moved in, and nobody moved out!" (No concept of downsizing there.) Wonder if WWII's destruction in Europe and the recovery from that left nearly nothing for flea markets. A German man in St. Louis said, "If it hadn't been for the Marshall Plan, we would have starved." He had been a very young boy in the enormous rubble of post-WWII Germany.

    Are the buildings warm over there? Do you have geothermal heat? If so, could that be a reason the heating systems are connected to a central source? Iceland has geothermal heat and so does New Zealand.

    How is it possible for the homeless to shut down airports? Have we missed some news over here? I need to watch the BBC.

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    1. There are some flea markets. I ran into one here when I was walking around last Saturday. I don't know if they are listed in the classifieds section of papers like at home, though, which would make them harder to find. I think a lot of people don't have yards (thus, no yard sales).

      It's quite warm. It's not geo-thermal. It is, as I understand it, that Denmark is burning it´s trash and pumping the heat out through this centralized system of steam pipes. The heat in the buildings is much like any place that has boiler-supplied heat, meaning a general lack of fine-tuning on the actual indoor temperature. I sleep often with my window open a smidge because otherwise it gets too warm for me while I'm sleeping.

      The homeless didn´t close the airport. The cold snap and associated wintry conditions caused the airport closures and the death of homeless people (from exposure). :)

      There *are* windmills (constant wind from the sea and ocean power them), but I think these are for electricity, not for heat.

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  3. Craigslist...word. I so badly wish they used craigslist out here. As far as I can tell they have the same alternatives to craiglist that we have in the US. Which means that have very disconnected options that most people don't use. Flea markets aren't a bad idea. They seem to be scheduled regularly out here.

    Things will be more reasonably priced when you get over to Germany.

    I miss really good beer. German's seem to be so proud of their beer that they miss out on all of the great things the rest of the world has done with it.

    Justin

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    1. Yeah, but flea markets aren't "dependable" in the way Craigslist is. That is, in Urbana I know I'd find some hodge podge of used furnishings, so I didn't really factor that into the cost of finding a new place. This time around, I figured a rough estimate of IKEA-based furnishings and divided that by 24 (two years) to add to my "Miete inkl. NK" budget. :/

      Yeah, I'm looking forward to cheap bread, wine, beer and sandwiches.

      Also, yeah, what's up with German beer? You know about the laws saying you can't call it beer if it has more than the 4 sanctioned ingredients (malt, yeast, hops...?)? Maybe that stunted development. I'm not really a fan of lager and not excited by heffeweizen, which seems to be what Germany fixates on. Have you popped over to Belgium? I love their beers. I visited a friend who was (for a few months) in Brussels, and really enjoyed it, in no small part due to the beer (e.g. Chimay Bleu) and lambics (and touring the Cantillon brewery). I would assume they'd be reasonably priced in Germany, being neighbors.

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  4. Great post! The second-hand online market seems to be more dispersed in Germany than in the US. I bought my bike from a German ebay site. I listed it on 4-5 websites when leaving Berlin, finally selling it off markt.de. I think you just have to look around for Kleinanzeige. Can you get a roommate to off-set the apartment costs--or do you want to live alone?

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    1. The Hamburg housing market is atrocious. My impression is that what reasonable roommate-type-situations that are out there are snapped up pretty quickly. The ones I've seen (left?) are things with 2-5 people (already!) living together and looking for another 1-3 people. Sometimes they convert the common room into a bedroom, too. And I've seen several adds of either people with their various kids + 1 empty room or such. I wouldn't feel very comfortable around 0-17 y/o's as my co-flatmates. :/

      So, I'm resigned to live by myself, for now. Once I'm there, I can try again.

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